I've had a couple of climbers over the last 7 years and in that time it's always been a Viper or Viper classic but this year I'm adding to the arsenal with Ultimate Viper. The is the Mac Daddy of all stands. It has every imaginable feature you could want without adding a ton of weight. And you still get the ALL DAY comfort Summit offers in all their stands. I had a chance to check this stand out this winter while at a big sporting goods store and couldn't believe how amazing it was. If you've not seen the Ultimate Viper or one of the two new climbers Summit is coming out with this year then please click on their banner and take a look. BEst Tree stand period!!