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PostSubject: The second biggest idiot   The second biggest idiot EmptyThu Jul 01, 2010 9:27 pm

Next to Bloomberg this guy is the biggest agenda idiot out there. Chicago has had a hand gun ban in place for about 30 years and yet hand gun violence in the city is at an all time high. Chicago is the hub of political corruption with all kinds of issues and yet this moron wants to snub his nose at the supreme court because he thinks he is the law. Here is what Chicago is trying to push through now since the Supreme court had decided it's unconstitutional to ban hand guns. Guys like this need to have what's coming to them and this is what is wrong with governments around the country. people that think they are bigger and better than the law of the land.






CHICAGO – With the city's gun ban certain to be overturned, Mayor Richard Daley on Thursday introduced what city officials say is the strictest handgun ordinance in the United States.

The measure, which draws from ordinances around the country, would ban gun shops in Chicago and prohibit gun owners from stepping outside their homes, even onto their porches or garages, with a handgun.

Daley announced his ordinance at a park on the city's South Side three days after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Americans have a right to own a gun for self-defense anywhere they live. The City Council is expected to vote on it Friday.

"As long as I'm mayor, we will never give up or give in to gun violence that continues to threaten every part of our nation, including Chicago," said Daley, who was flanked by activists, city officials and the parents of a teenager whose son was shot and killed on a city bus while shielding a friend.

The ordinance, which Daley urged the City Council to pass, also would :

• Limit the number of handguns residents can register to one per month and prohibit residents from having more than one handgun in operating order at any given time.

• Require residents in homes with children to keep them in lock boxes or equipped with trigger locks.

• Require prospective gun owners to take a four-hour class and one-hour training at a gun range. They would have to leave the city for training because Chicago prohibits new gun ranges and limits the use of existing ranges to police officers. Those restrictions were similar to those in an ordinance passed in Washington, D.C., after the high court struck down its ban two years ago.

• Prohibit people from owning a gun if they were convicted of a violent crime, domestic violence or two or more convictions for driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs. Residents convicted of a gun offense would have to register with the police department.

• Calls for the police department to maintain a registry of every handgun owner in the city, with the names and addresses to be made available to police officers, firefighters and other emergency responders.

Those who already have handguns in the city — which has been illegal since the city's ban was approved 28 years ago — would have 90 days to register those weapons, according to the proposed ordinance.

Residents convicted of violating the city's ordinance can face a fine up to $5,000 and be locked up for as long as 90 days for a first offense and a fine of up to $10,000 and as long as six months behind bars for subsequent convictions.

"We've gone farther than anyone else ever has," said Corporation Counsel Mara Georges.

Still, the mayor, whose office is trying to craft an ordinance that will withstand legal challenges, had to back off some provisions he'd hoped to include, including requiring gun owners to insure their weapons and restricting each resident to one handgun.

Georges said it would be expensive for homeowners to include guns on their homeowners' and renters' insurance policies, so such a requirement could be seen as being discriminatory to the city's poorer residents. Limiting the number of handguns could be seen as discriminatory to people who owned weapons before the city's ban went into effect in 1982 or before they moved into the city.

"We can limit the place in which those handguns can be located," she said, before adding a not-so-veiled swipe at the court: "For instance, the Supreme court does not want them coming into the courthouse."

Still, Daley indicated that no matter what was included in the ordinance, he expects legal challenges.

"Everybody has a right to sue," he said.
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PostSubject: Re: The second biggest idiot   The second biggest idiot EmptyThu Jul 01, 2010 9:38 pm

They have to look at what is really going on and come to realize that it's not the average citizen that are commiting these crimes but it is the hood rats that do not foloow any laws in the first place. They can put all the restictions they want on people and it will not solve thier problems. They have completley banned guns in Chicago for 30 years and what did that do for them. How is greatly resticting and making people register guns going to help at all.
I don't get it and they probablly never will to. What can you do.
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PostSubject: Re: The second biggest idiot   The second biggest idiot EmptyThu Jul 01, 2010 9:40 pm

Do these people that ban against guns really beleive the violence will stop. This Nation is in bad shape and I hate to say that.
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PostSubject: Re: The second biggest idiot   The second biggest idiot EmptyThu Jul 01, 2010 10:24 pm

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

I really can't see the gray area, and don't understand why the decision wasn't 9-0.
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PostSubject: Re: The second biggest idiot   The second biggest idiot EmptyThu Jul 01, 2010 10:45 pm

And yet they don't realize (because there democrats) that the criminals don't care about your city ordinance.


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I could lay a loaded gun with a round chambered on a table for a 100 years...... and if a person DIDN'T touch it, it would NEVER killed anybody!!!!

BAD people kill people!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: The second biggest idiot   The second biggest idiot EmptyThu Jul 01, 2010 10:50 pm

Well said TRR and Mark.
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PostSubject: Re: The second biggest idiot   The second biggest idiot EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 12:48 am

I really believe that this is just an arrogant man that is snubbing his nose to the Supreme Court and having a bit of a fit. Take him out of Chicago and he is nothing. Recent data released by the FBI shows that hand gun violence is growing in Chicago and yet they turn their head to it. Goes back to the old saying " take guns from Citizens and only criminals have guns"
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PostSubject: Re: The second biggest idiot   The second biggest idiot EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 6:05 am

Very true Robert, so frusterating
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PostSubject: Re: The second biggest idiot   The second biggest idiot EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 7:47 am

Camoed Assassin wrote:
Well said TRR and Mark.

Thats what I was thinking.
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PostSubject: Re: The second biggest idiot   The second biggest idiot EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 10:08 am

This is very disturbing. Is it expected to pass the City Council? Washington DC went in that direction as well. Very sad.
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PostSubject: Re: The second biggest idiot   The second biggest idiot EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 12:09 pm

Mark wrote:
And yet they don't realize (because there democrats) that the criminals don't care about your city ordinance.


The second biggest idiot Now_you_can_have_it_by_PaulStrealer


I could lay a loaded gun with a round chambered on a table for a 100 years...... and if a person DIDN'T touch it, it would NEVER killed anybody!!!!

BAD people kill people!!!!

Well Said Mark.
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PostSubject: Re: The second biggest idiot   The second biggest idiot EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 2:14 pm

shehuntsva wrote:
This is very disturbing. Is it expected to pass the City Council? Washington DC went in that direction as well. Very sad.

It's Chicago and Daly has all them in his pocket so I expect it to pass. They are expecting some legal fights too but that's not gonna stop them
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PostSubject: Re: The second biggest idiot   The second biggest idiot EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 9:52 pm

Yeah, that looks like a nice reasonable set of gun laws. No Many parts will be struck down as unconstitutional I'm sure, after a few more years and untold millions spent defending it. One of the scariest parts is that first responders are shielded from being sued if they shoot a homeowner who is in possession of a gun. That is as crazy as it gets.
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