well here is the story behind her. I was hunting in a blind with one of my buddy trying to harvest a doe for them. We had the decoy out and she came right into about 15 yards and I like the carbon express fly. I made a good shot right in the heart the luminok was glowing bright as the G5 T3 head did a great job. She ran off about 40 to 50 yards and piled up in the field. I was very happy with the way they performed.