So after a few years of debating on whether or not to get one, I finally invested in a climber. It's the summit viper sd. And it came with all the bells and whistles. Won it off eBay for a good price. I was setting it up last night, thought I was doing good until I tried to put them together like if I was about to walk into the woods with it. It has a really big comfy seat on it, and with that on it won't close. But I want to have everything on it at all times. Now my question to all y'all that have one of these things is first: am I doing something wrong? The directions were terrible so it's possible. And is there a video that has good instruction to help me. I look forward to hearing from y'all thanks.