Well I finally told my self it was time to hang some stands went out and got one of them in this morning. I put this one in a nice easy spot to get to where I have got alot of pics of does at. So this stand is going to be my meat hunting stand and its a good spot for filming the deer all filter down to this opne spot where they cross the road and they walk right up the 4 wheeler trail also where the bear tracks where from the other day.